When the topic of "Post-Apocalypse" comes up, it's easy to imagine yourself (because I've done it too), romping through the lawless countryside in your own personal Abrams MBT. Yeehaw! What I can't smash, I'll just shoot! This is not intended to be that thread. The cheapest, most reliable means of transport in the event of some catastrophe, is there inside your shoes. A horse would be next. Much faster, requires a little more work, but still less than a car. They're mostly self-repairing, and fuel is wondrous cheap! But let's be honest: we're gear geeks. Shiny metal is cool. So the point of this thread is to have an at least somewhat serious discussion of the practical difficulties of maintaining a motor vehicle without a support infrastructure. Most of them, we never think of. Fuel stations, pumping stations and refineries would be either destroyed in the riots, or become strongholds. Mad Max got that one right. Likewise for tires, tools, engine coolant, oil, and never mind the expertise and computer diagnostic tools that modern cars need! An automotive technician would be worth his weight in gold! Now, understand, I'm not specifically advocating for or against cars, trucks, and tanks, in the event of a civilization-ending disaster. I'm just interesting in hearing the community's thoughts on the subject.