Why do you carry the piece you carry?

Sharaz_Jek

EDC Grand Master
#21
Summer carry, Russian Makarov IWB. Winter carry Springfield XD9 OWB under a fleece vest. When I'm hiking Romanian TTC Tokarev.

I guess I just have a love for Russian and Eastern European weapons. They're crude, functional and soldier proof. The XD9 was originally a Croatian design and mine was machined there.
 
#22
I started carrying pistols when I was 19 back in 1993. Glocks, Sigs, HKs, Colts and even some cheap throwaway crap. Most of the time I carried two Glock 17s. Luckily that was my carry the few times I needed them and that cemented them pretty well for me. Back in 2001 I decided to try .40 S&W and grabbed a Steyr M40. I carried that exclusively for a number of years until I went back to a Glock 17. I also have a Kahr CW380 for discreet carry where I can't afford to have someone notice the Glock on my hip. Maybe one day I will be able to carry appendix and do better, but there is no room for that 17 in the front once I sit down. I'm honestly thinking of going back to carrying two Glock 17s with me in the future, maybe I can even pull off some 34s like @moostapha. I think 17Ls are a pipe dream, but would be fun.
I still haven't switched to a 34. I spent that money on the semi-race gun carry experiment (Atom slide, H1, comp'd barrel that's still incoming because they sent the wrong one).

Speaking of which, it works decently well. The aimpoint itself prints a little more than I would like when I wear the gun where I like it best. But I can make it disappear well enough for the vast majority of days. I ordered a wedge from JMCK to see if that will help a little bit. But if I don't figure it out, I'll probably switch to a 34 around the end of the year. Either that or get my beaten-up RMR replaced, since it's just enough smaller to disappear fine.

Deeper carry lately has been a Glock 19 in a smart carry. And if it gets much colder and I actually have to start bundling up, my Colt Cobra is going to live in coat pockets for a few months.

As for why...I still haven't had a problem with a glock, even with all the things I do to them. I'd prefer they were American-made, but not enough to pay several times more for M&P mags.
 
#24
Just like most of you bruddas, I have switched out my carry choice a few times for comfort, firepower, or just plain old "it's the new hotness". Starting with my original carry which was an XDM in 9mm to my Springfield LW Operator for that extra slim profile and extra 45 punch. Now, after trying numerous carry pistols, I've settled on my P-10c. Starting to find that although I love the happy knockdown on the 45, and the slim profile of the 1911, bad guys have friends. So having a great grab and push gun (no adjustment necessary, just pull it out of the holster and push toward the target) is primary in my mind. Extra mag, and I'm set. With all the active shooter(s) scenarios, I'd rather have more rounds to put on target. Here lately, my carry gear consist of the CZ P-10 with extra mag and TRL1s, Spyderco fixed blade, CRKT folder, SOG multi tool, and my aide bag in the truck if I have a MASSCAL situation. Hope this helps fam!
 
#25
I tried a 34 for a while.

I'm back to the atom slide with an RMR. The 34 slide and H1 were borrowed, and their owners wanted them back.

I'm going to get the new Aimpoint P1 whenever it and an atom plate are available, unless the price point is higher than the T2.

I'm not convinced that the 34 is actually better. The 17 seems like the right compromise in size. Though the new polymer80 19-sized frames that take full sized slides are REALLY intriguing. I'm just waiting until they hit stores.

The como I bought ended up not working. That company had a lot of QC problems, and I never managed to install it. I mailed it back with a handwritten note about it, and they refunded me. So, that's good.

If I decided to go that way again, I'd probably just wait until Agency makes a NOC that integrates either a P1 or a T2. But, I don't care.

Also, just as a side note....the USAMU action pistol guy that won Bianchi cup this year has one of the most awesome looking race guns I've ever seen. If I won the lottery, a comp'd 17 with a surefire and a frame mounted comp m5 would basocally be my dream gun.

Fwiw, still zero issues with my TDG SCDs and SSVi/Ghost trigger mods or my home stippling. I don't shoot as much as I did for a while, but I've shot enough to completely wear out 2 RMRs.

I'm getting to the point that I don't even look at press releases anymore. Nothing interesting is happening in the pistol world except those few things.

If we change our archaic and unconstitutional SBR laws, I'll have to get a B&T USW, but I doubt that's going to happen.

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dmak

into the wild i go, let fortune assist the daring
Staff member
Global Mod
#27
Been carrying a doublestack Glock daily now for over a year. Wouldn't do it any other way. I like the idea of having 10 or more rounds on board. Im a 40 guy so it's typically my 27, the 23 is on home defense duty. The 27 hides very easily so it is my daily driver. Stipple job was totally worth it. I really like the texture and I get such a better grip on the gun now. Will probably do the Gen 4 g23 soon cause I prefer the stipple to the raised RTF of Glock.


 
#28
I carry a Taurus Tracker .357 with 4 Inch barrel. I carry it for the stopping power the .357 offers. It is a 7 round stainless steel revolver with ported barrel. And its fairly easy to conceal with the triple k holster I have. Or in my blue stone concealment vest.
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For backup, I carry a Taurus model 85 .38 special.
Its a 5 round 2 inch barrel with cerakote finish. .38 spl or .38 spl +p
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#29
My first carry pistol was a cheap, but surprisingly high quality Norinco 1911 that I kinda wish I still had. I bought it at the age of 21 about three days after a guy showed me his pistol as I was driving down the street he was walking down the middle of. After that, I moved around to different guns, but always keep coming back to a 1911. My current pistol is a stainless Colt Commander which is just an amazing pistol all the way around. I'd given thought to the idea of multiple assailants, etc., and carried a Beretta 92FS and later a Glock 19 for a while, but I consider my pistol a way to fight my way to a rifle, and that's how I use it. I keep a rifle stowed in the event of any situation a pistol won't handle, and have a plan to get to it if it's not right handy. I walk around with my head on a swivel even when I'm home, because I don't believe in the whole "he came out of nowhere" business. I'm pretty far from being a billy badass, but I generally do not give off the vibe of being someone it would pay to mess with.
 
#30
Six or 7 months later, and my stuff hasn't changed.

It will soon. My brithday is coming up in a little while, which means it's time to change the RMR battery. But, it looks like the ACRO P1 is actually coming to market. And, apparently, all of the mount/slide manufacturers & modders (e.g., Unity Tactical, ATEi, Agency, etc.) got pre-release versions, so mounts will be available day 1.

I'm probably not going to change the battery. I'll just wait for the ACRO instead of dealing with that headache and switch back to my iron-sighted 19 if the RMR dies before it comes in.

I haven't heard a bad word about it, and I think I've now heard from at least 3 people I trust who've had their hands on them that they're great. It seems like they basically downsized the T2.

But, yeah...why do I carry my 17 with a dot, stippling, light, and trigger? Because I haven't found a real problem with it. And having used it in FoF and competition, for like 2 years, I trust it.

If, for some reason, I replace it...it'll be another Glock set up basically the same.
 

dmak

into the wild i go, let fortune assist the daring
Staff member
Global Mod
#31
Same boat as you @moostapha. I finally found a setup that works well and have stuck to it for a couple years now. G23 is my daily driver with the 22 and 27 randomly making appearances. Biggest change is that I've switched my WML on my 23 from the x300u to the Olight pl mini. So far I'm happy with that switch and the light is proving to be a durable little thing,. They all shoot the same for me for the most part. I do find myself grabbing the 22/x300u combo about twice a week cause I love the size of the full frame in my hand
 

dmak

into the wild i go, let fortune assist the daring
Staff member
Global Mod
#32
@moostapha do you notice a big difference between the 17 and 34? I've entertained the idea of a long slide.

As far as RDS for pistol goes, I'm waiting. Not too long, but I figure in 1-2 years THE RDS that rules them all will be made. Imo, obviously limited, I feel that the pistol RDS is almost there, but just not quite. I'm holding out, I'll stick to irons till then. I do like the idea of single vs. multiple focal plane aiming.
 
#33
@moostapha do you notice a big difference between the 17 and 34? I've entertained the idea of a long slide.
On irons, yes, there's a difference. If you can carry an x300u, you can carry a 34/35, unless you're shaped really weird. Mostly, they balance better. Theoretically, you'll get a little more velocity out of it as well, but with good SD ammo, I'm pretty sure it's an irrelevant improvement.

As far as RDS for pistol goes, I'm waiting. Not too long, but I figure in 1-2 years THE RDS that rules them all will be made. Imo, obviously limited, I feel that the pistol RDS is almost there, but just not quite. I'm holding out, I'll stick to irons till then. I do like the idea of single vs. multiple focal plane aiming.
As far as I'm concerned, it's the ACRO. The T2 was really really really really really close. The only downside of it was the large battery compartment, and its downsides only really come up when your clothes are almost hipster tight. The P1 is enough smaller and less bulky on the sides that it won't have those.

The only downside is that it's a CR1225 battery, which nothing else uses. So, I'll end up having a pile of batteries in storage just for it. But...small downside.

It looks like they're expected to ship in March. I may pre-order one for my birthday.
 

dmak

into the wild i go, let fortune assist the daring
Staff member
Global Mod
#34
On irons, yes, there's a difference. If you can carry an x300u, you can carry a 34/35, unless you're shaped really weird. Mostly, they balance better. Theoretically, you'll get a little more velocity out of it as well, but with good SD ammo, I'm pretty sure it's an irrelevant improvement.



As far as I'm concerned, it's the ACRO. The T2 was really really really really really close. The only downside of it was the large battery compartment, and its downsides only really come up when your clothes are almost hipster tight. The P1 is enough smaller and less bulky on the sides that it won't have those.

The only downside is that it's a CR1225 battery, which nothing else uses. So, I'll end up having a pile of batteries in storage just for it. But...small downside.

It looks like they're expected to ship in March. I may pre-order one for my birthday.
I'm going to wait for your input to be totally honest. I'll be anxious to hear your thoughts.

About once a month I see a g35 pop up for $450. Think I'm going to have to jump on one to finish out the .40 family. Of the four sizes, which do you suggest RDS and which should stay iron? I'll have to mill my slides.
 
#35
I'm going to wait for your input to be totally honest. I'll be anxious to hear your thoughts.

About once a month I see a g35 pop up for $450. Think I'm going to have to jump on one to finish out the .40 family. Of the four sizes, which do you suggest RDS and which should stay iron? I'll have to mill my slides.
Part of me wants to say all of them, if you've got the budget. If you only want one dot gun, the one you're most likely to carry. Which seems like the full size in your case.

The difference between carrying a full size and a long slide is negligible to me. But, I carry all my glocks in 34/35 holsters.

I'm sure you know the trade-offs involved...

Smaller frames can be easier to conceal, but really good holsters pretty much negate that. Even being ~50 LBS lighter (and like 7" off my waist) from when I started carrying, a full size frame with a magpul magwell still disappears. I can almost get away with a 21 round mag.

Longer slides/barrels don't really impact anything negatively unless you wear your pants particularly low, and they can give a little more velocity that isn't a bad thing but probably isn't relevant.

Longer slides/barrels can have a balance point farther forward, which I think improves the recoil impulse. The longer slide also "points" a little better and can improve presentation speed a tiny bit for the same reason it's easier to point with a yardstick than a ruler. It's not a night & day difference, but it is there.

34s and 35s have a window in the top of the slide. In a normal holstered carry situation, it's less relevant, but there is more of a chance of stuff/gunk getting into the slide if you have to fight somewhere dirty. I have not seen heavy rain affect reliability because of it, and there are a decent number of door kicker cops, 3gun competitors, and what not that carry 34s without worry.

If you're ever going to add a silencer, it's easier to find concealed holsters for a 17/22 with a threaded barrel than a 34/35 with a threaded barrel. That's less of a concern with .40.

If you're ever going to add a compensator, a 19/23 with a comp will almost always fit into a 34/35 holster.

I don't actually like .40 for a variety of reasons (no scientific advantage over 9, reduced capacity compared to 9, no subsonic ammo available if you're ever going to get a can, more stress on the frame, few deep carry options, etc.). Plus, if SHTF, every single person I'd be defending/surviving with uses 9mm glocks, 5.56 ARs, and 308 hunting rifles. I don't want to be the odd man out. That, you and I can just disagree on.

But...personally...I kinda think that the 34 (primary carry) and 48 (deep concealment) are the only ones that really need to exist, unless you're going to get a silencer (and I'd have threaded barrels for a 17 slide and a 48). Ideally, I'd put dots on everything except the 48 (due to it being a deep carry gun, not because I wouldn't want one).

I really like the longslides. The only reason I don't carry one is that Unity doesn't make a 34-sized Atom slide, and without having something milled, that's the best mounting for red dots out there, especially if you prefer aimpoint to trijicon (which you probably should).

My only hesitation with switching back to a 34 right now is that I don't really want to have one milled if I can help it (I'm impatient). And while I think the MOS is viable with the ACRO once the plates come out, having the rear BUIS in front of the optic is a pretty big advantage (you get something like bindon aiming instead of the rear sight blocking you from seeing the dot at all if it's low in the window). If I were to go MOS, I just wouldn't run a rear sight (front-only iron through a tube is similar to the Big Dot sight...which sucks. It's still reasonably accurate, just slow). That's probably what I'm going to end up doing, for whatever it's wroth.
 

dmak

into the wild i go, let fortune assist the daring
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#36
Thanks for the input. Probably going to start with the 22 as it seems to make the most sense. I carry it easily and I shoot it better than my others. The sights in front of the RDS makes a lot of sense, helps with parallax shift

Holsters aren't an issue for me as I make my own. My g27 can carry just as deeply concealed as my kahr pm9 did. I prefer double stack mag compatibility over the added comfort of carrying single stack.

As you may know, I'm just an average Joe that happens to shoot a lot. I have the benefit of being able to shoot outdoors on an open range so I am blessed that I get to actually test my stuff. My monthly minimum is 400 rounds through my carry piece, at least 150 rounds every two weeks. Typically, I shoot much more than that.

Reasons I love 40.

1) I have a significant stockpile, I have more .40 than most people do 22lr. I'm serious when I say that. No need to go to another caliber at the moment. Plus if SHTF happens and I have to do battlefield pickup/barter nonsense, it's not hard to drop my 9mm conversion in and conform to group standards. I have a full set of slide/frame parts for 9mm and you and I both know that it only takes about 4 minutes to fully strip and rebuild a Glock. With full parts swap and my Alpha Wolf conversion barrel, I've had flawless 9mm performance out of both my 23 and 27. About 800 9mm through the 23 and about 600 through the 27. I like the idea of being able to change my caliber quickly. Full conversion cost was only about $200 which includes 4 mags, a barrel, and all the internals. A lot cheaper than $450 on a used g19.

2) I have a can, it's a Silencer Co Omega 45k. From my experience most 40 is subsonic when ran through suppressor. Once suppressed, it slows down enough to go sub. I've tested on several factory loads, If you look at the ballistics, 40 is just barely super sonic around 1150-1200 fps. Super is around 1125 fps and most 40 I chrono through the can is around 1050-1100. It stays pretty quiet, and that's out of my 16 inch barrel sub2k. With a 45 can, I can suppress ALOT of calibers. Works great for my 300 blk as well

3) Capacity differences is negligible to me. 2 less rounds in a mag isn't a big difference to me. I feel and my experience and research tells me 40 has more KE on target and has better ability at obstacle penetration. When I do denim layer testing out in the desert, my 40 gets through more fabric than my 9 does. In winter, people here have more clothing on and I want to be able to defeat multiple layers as quickly as possible. When I shoot steel plates, the plates rock harder when I shoot them with my 40 vs my 9. On paper they may be close enough to not be too different, but my experience proves to me that 40 hits plenty hard and works. Recoil impulse differences are negligible for me, I'm not recoil sensitive and my splits with 40 vs 9 are pretty much identical.

My testing has proven to me that I prefer 40 over 9 and 45. I gave them all rigorous runs and found 40 to be the best balance of pros and cons for my needs. I'm currently and for a long time to come will be "that 40 guy" it works and I don't need to change.
 
#37
Thanks for the input. Probably going to start with the 22 as it seems to make the most sense. I carry it easily and I shoot it better than my others. The sights in front of the RDS makes a lot of sense, helps with parallax shift
It actually won't help with parallax. The T2/H2, RMR, and (theoretically) ACRO exhibit less parallax than basically all of the other red dots, which is important. If you bother to center the dot in the window (or put it on top of existing sights), you're giving away the speed advantages. And if there's too much parallax, that sacrifices some accuracy and lies to you when your call is wrong.

The advantage, at least from what affects me IRL, is that a rear BUIS behind the optic can block the view of the dot if it's below the super-high sights. Considering that a lot of them are set up for lower-1/3 cowitness, that gives away about a third of your window to nothing. If the rear BUIS is in front of the optic or just not there, you get the whole window and the worst case is that the rear iron blocks the direct strong-eye view of the target (just like it would shooting irons), but you still see the dot. And if you have relatively normal binocular vision (e.g., no lazy eye, both eyes functional), your brain kinda fills in the gaps (a la Bindon Aiming).

People will say it also protects the front glass. I haven't had or really even seen any problems it would have prevented. The glass used is pretty darn good.

Reasons I love 40....
Fair enough. We can disagree. .40 is not worse apart from the capacity.
 

Kaibab270

EDC Apprentice
#38
I carry a Shield 9mm. Generally I'm a Glock guy but in the single stack slimline options I feel the Shield is superior. Very concealable, accurate (enough), light and 8+1 ability.

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